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probokator (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Ummm I'm sorry but many of the Indonesia Palm Oil Company are owned by Malaysian and Singaporean (Pinago, Wahana, etc)
laurens890 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Palm oil producers don't respect laws and even go into protected lands. Luckely for them there isn't much law regulation in Indonesia.
laurens890 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I have seen other programs of other tribal pple chased away with violence in Malaysia and Indonesia by logging companies and palm oil producers. I am not saying they are some lost tribe but they relied on their forests land and didn't want their forest to be destroyed. Also the palm oil companies dump toxic waste in the river so that fish die and pple who rely on fish have lost a food source.
cervacio (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
i dont think my last point are successfully posted so im gonna write it again..my last point is the giant oil palm plantations that operate in indonesia are own by indonesian corporations rather than multinationals. these giant conglomerates are buying more and more land banks every year so they can become the greatest. and their owners are mostly well connected to indonesian regulators and thus much needed international intervention to stop the level of deforestation that is happening today
cervacio (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
second, that tribal ppl who gets interviewed on this documentary do not represent the majority of whats happening here. the tribes who live in those jungles of Sumatra and Kalimantan have been chopping woods illegally and sell them to the black market. they are not one of those "lost tribe" in africa who are naive and dont know shit. some of those tribesmen even are the ones who burn the jungle in order to prepare land for their very own oil palm plantations
cervacio (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
laurens890.."44 % of the Indonesian population depends on natural forests against 2 % who depend on palm plantations"?? please you clearly do not know what is happening in indonesia especially in those areas.First, for the last 8-10 years ago traditional indonesian villagers in rural Sumatra have been planting oil palm on their 3-5 hectares of land. those ppl do not plant rice paddies anymore. some of these ppl can even afford a US$ 22,000 nice toyota because of this lucrative business
KhanSlayer (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
What makes you think this will bring them food? These companies are not indonesian owned. They are only licensed by the indonesian government.
qwertzp7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
What do you mean "starve"? I'm not saying oil palm is bad. It brings a much needed economy boost to Indonesia. But those Indonesian oil palm planters are too selfish and short-sighted to take care of their forests. If Indonesia wants to plant oil palm, do it like Malaysia and don't send those haze over to Singapore and Malaysia.
laurens890 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
palm plantations cause destruction of the forest and its biodiversity, global warming, and many people, who are dependent of the forest, to be left out of resources and land. This land is stolen of them by multinationals. There even is slavery on some plantations.
laurens890 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
oxygen levels in the atmosphere do change, but very little. |
