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aikigenius (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
marcuse is more relevant than ever..but we need someone bigger than him to imagine how the super-rich can acquire the human heart..the pursuit of pleasures doesnt do it for them or for me..
cristenroyce (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
His position is well worth considering. No straw mans here.
federicowaissmann (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
The Frankfurt philosopher's were the most balanced in their analysis, for they did not give a rule model or an expectation for years to come, they gave just a number of posibilities: Marcuse's vision of technology and capitalist society as means to develop a new way of freedom for human kind or horkheimer's future society where production and men reach two possible endings, to fulfil their dreams or to be subject of slavery to fulfil somebody else's
federicowaissmann (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
If you look at it plainly, Plato wanted an static society , a way of life in which people couldn't leave their country unless they had a certain age or social status an promissed not to introduce any sort of new ideas at their return. Marx's vision of a future society (if you manage to find such a thing in his writtings) is equally restrictive, and only sourvives working as an amphibious between models.
federicowaissmann (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
And so on and on. The big deal is, if people could only undestand it, that there's not a single truth that will come straight out from anyone. That's why epistemology, or any other discipline within philosophy for that matter, won't ever go to or fro.
WSRobinson (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"All of us have been propagandised and brought into a system which they did not chose to create. We have been inadvertently forced to share the same opinions, dispositions, impulses and even the physical habits which adapt us to life in an advanced industrial society. Our pleasures have become consumer goods and our lives have been devoted to alienated work. Sadly, all this takes place in a society that is so rich and prosperous that it could offer us all a much better life."
FuriousBataille (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I don't see your reason? It would be easier to understand your point if you made it! Oddly enough many of those people would agree with you in one way or another. Plato wanted to ban poets altogether and many of those Marxist were not particularly keen on being the rulers of the world. Its mostly fascist and capitalist who are big on ruling everyone else for the reasons that silly old Plato developed thousands of years ago.
mennea (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
another reason not to trust philosophers or poets to run the world...plato was wrong, and so marcuse...or adorno, or marx, or lukacs, or... |
